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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 18 January 2011 à 14h49 »
Maybe not a few days :whistle: But certainly before 2.1 is even close to ready.

But we'd rather not rush it being ready and release it when it's actually ready with everything we want it to be.

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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 17 January 2011 à 14h18 »
I'm hardly active on sm.org at the moment, nothing compared to what I used to be.

And I sincerely doubt any of their devs are interested in the fork, knowing how there is a serious amount of dislike on both sides. The only things the devs may be interested in is bug fixes but after the way things turned out, we have no plans to give them any of our bug fixes. I only reported a bug because I thought it was a security matter and therefore quite important to report.

It is no surprise that the title of this thread is named after a variation on a very common English swear word, directed at SMF.

There is a benefit to the fork of me watching support threads - it gives me more things to know to fix up front in the fork...

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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 17 January 2011 à 9h44 »
Two, Nao and myself.

Already there are nearly 500 commits to the codebase, some ranging to hundreds and hundreds of lines.

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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 17 January 2011 à 6h53 »
The public version will be public, but there's a lot to do before that - not least SMF 2.0 final has to come first for legal reasons.

Yes, there will be a way to get from SMF to the fork, though we haven't started working on that (too much) yet.

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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 16 January 2011 à 18h28 »
I think we can safely say there is faster development :)

But a great deal of our time is spent not just adding new stuff but reworking what's there into a form that's better suited for us going forward, so unfortunately we're not adding stuff at the pace we'd like to, not yet anyway.

Mind you, I've already added an optimisation and a subfeature (a subsystem that other features will depend on) today and a new minor feature is coming along shortly after.

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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 16 January 2011 à 2h45 »
The list is relatively small right now, so that we don't get flooded with many feature requests - as it is, we have 7 pages of discussions of features that are 'right now' features, plus pages of 'would be nice later' stuff. The more people we have, the more discussion there is, and the slower development will get.

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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 6 January 2011 à 2h17 »
I don't really see us using PortaMX by default... Fel and us, let's just say we clashed over ideologies.

The intention is for things like that to be available in core but not enabled by default.

At least one portal has a licence suitable for forking but it would become a rewrite rather than a simple fork so we may as well just build it ourselves and be done with it.

As for falling into the same traps, no, I don't think so. The key difference between our groups is that with us, the people with the keys to the kingdom (i.e. the 'management') are also the same people working on the code, which means it would take us both falling out to have that kind of hostage situation.

Yes, there will inevitably be licence issues down the road but...
1. For the folks who believe in the spirit of open source, I don't think we plan to market ourselves as 'open source' anyway (one of the pitfalls SMF fell into)
2. The closed licence, at least initially (no guarantees it will always remain that way), is for our protection. I certainly have no qualms about being up front about it. It is about protecting our hard work from those who would stab us in the back.
3. Yes, it will cause issues with bridging to CMSes and stuff that's GPL, but really, the bigger question is why you'd want to. The core would be able to cover a decent % of what most of the CMSes do, and a few add-ons on top should blow any need for bridging out of the water.

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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 31 December 2010 à 1h29 »
Sounds good to me :)

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Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 30 December 2010 à 0h05 »
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He never stopped commenting... You can follow him on arantor.org, Runic's forum, here, and even on sm.org -- under the name IncognitoMuse (it's not like it's a secret.)
These days, though, I'm less about commenting on code and more about dispensing sarcastic justice, or something.
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He never went "out" of SMF. He was pretty much kicked out by the team, like me.
Officially, I resigned, but it was either that, or wait around, get burned out, then get kicked out. These days I'm far too aggressive and rabble-rousing to be reconsidered for the team :P
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(The current SMF developer patch over RC4 is less than a hundred kilobytes, IIRC.)
Pfft, I'm not even sure it'd be that. Might have to test that later just to see, out of random curiosity.

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Aeva Media / Re: Compatibility problems with RC4 and PortaMX ?
« on: 24 December 2010 à 0h24 »
* Arantor isn't sure if that's sarcastic or not... :/

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Aeva Media / Re: Compatibility problems with RC4 and PortaMX ?
« on: 23 December 2010 à 23h11 »
There isn't support here for the free mods, please use the thread on simplemachines.org for support with Aeva Lite... you know, the one where Nao has been post-banned from.

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You know the mod site on SMF has a search-by-version function, right?

In any case we're aiming to have it far less picky about versions.

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Aeva Media / Re: Compatibility problems with RC4 and PortaMX ?
« on: 13 December 2010 à 0h23 »
* Arantor will be interested to see that...

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Aeva Media / Re: Compatibility problems with RC4 and PortaMX ?
« on: 12 December 2010 à 15h53 »
Bingo. If you want a laugh, go read pages 7-10 or so of the SimpleSEF thread where he tries to get all high and mighty with SlammedDime.

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