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Aeva Media / Re: fix for Aeva
« on: 20 April 2011 23h21 » is a generic shortener, but if the maps/ path can be relied upon, maybe it's viable for a lookup?

Well, JWPlayer is an MP3 player...

Aeva Media / fix for Aeva
« on: 12 April 2011 19h20 »
Just for those who are interested...

There is a fix for YouTube's new short links ( contains the change required.

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 23 March 2011 18h01 »
Oh dear, you're going to be *very* disappointed then...

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 23 March 2011 14h57 »
What's wrong with that, exactly?

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 20 March 2011 0h44 »
Ahhh, gotcha. In that respect it's easily the way to go to figure out how a system works :)

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 19 March 2011 18h21 »
I have, though it's not something I tend to dwell on too much, it's certainly not something that PHP is *particularly* good at, though it can certainly be done with some of the bigger frameworks to a point where it's reasonably elegant.

RoR is much better for ORM.

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 18 March 2011 17h05 »
It is possible, but distinctly non trivial to just upend it like that, and it still would have the legal status of being a derivative, until such times as everything as has been rewritten.

Chunks of it already have been rewritten and others refactored so it resembles its heritage less and less, but it's still overwhelmingly reminiscent right now.

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 18 March 2011 10h03 »
I think it comes down to passion. In your hay day at SMF, which really wasn't all that long ago reminds me and many others of [Unknown] during the early days of SMF and even Yabb SE.
Can't argue with that. It's amazing what happens when passion gets involved.
I have a deep respect for most of those that have been part of the development team and some that have just been part of the community. Well, there have been a few that I cant believe have ever been allowed on the team..
There have been people that amazed me that were let in. And there have been people that amazed me were kept out. Nao is firmly in the latter category, apparently because of his attitude, except that his attitude is fine. You'll notice that Nao and I have something in common about that, really: Nao and I do disagree about things, but neither of us get angry about it... because we respect each other. Where it falls apart is where people stop respecting what goes in to working on such things.
Add to the fact that sometimes your brand of help can be overly direct and a bit abrasive (yes I now know that it was due to burn out)... You just had to be a machine!
I don't see any point in wasting time pontificating and being flowery. And I find myself only being abrasive when I ask a straightforward enough question and people waste time answering something else, or going off in random directions "being helpful". Or, the worst, when people don't bother to read what's put right in front of them, that's easily the cause of most abrasion (from both me and Nao, as it happens)
They were amazed that I actually was writing in HTML and I had enough perl knowledge at the time that I could easily bend Yabb to my will.
Perl was something I never got into, to be honest. Seen it, toyed with it, but generally avoid it, and I have respect for those that brave it.
Ever since I have been extremely humbled.
A little humility is never a bad thing in my experience. I should note that recently I got told to pull my head out of my ass over something on, and to be fair they were right, I was a bit vicious :P
Not fishing for a complement there. If the only true knowledge is in knowing you know nothing, I'm at least smart enough to know I'm just a hair above moron.
In all honesty, that's not entirely fair, IMHO. I'm only about a hair and a sliver about moron ;) It's all relative, really. For example, I don't even know how to drive a car :o

What I do know, though, is that knowing yourself, and more importantly understanding yourself is probably the greatest knowledge you can obtain for yourself.

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 18 March 2011 3h20 »
Thanks for the kind words :) I guess for a while I sort of was the face of SMF, but it became increasingly clear that all is not well. Despite protestations from the team to the contrary it is my belief that all is still not well, and that the increase of 'democracy' hasn't helped one bit.

I'm not going to comment any further on them; they will be known for what they do and don't do going forward. I do know, however, that everything that's going on now is descended from pretty much everything that happened in 2010. It could all have been so different, but I think in the end, we would have gone our own way anyway; as has been said elsewhere, all the time we shared their vision, they were content to have us be their whipping boy, the moment we started to eschew that and have our OWN vision (bearing in mind we have the skills to fully realise any vision we have), that's the point we would have gone our own way. All that transpired just made it easier.

Mr Brackets is quite a way away from the current code; he left around 2005 due to the politics, and came back for a brief spell to try and help at the end of 2009 when this started to hit the fan, but into 2010 it spiralled and while I know he's busy with real life, I get the impression that he accepted it wasn't ever going to change and put it behind him.

As it happens, I have never quite seen myself on Unknown's level, some of the technical discussions he's been part of sort of put me to shame at times, but then I remember that he's been doing the whole PHP thing on a professional level for longer than I have - he was working with PHP at a professional level when I was still learning the language for the first time.

What we do share, though - what I think people like Zef, like Unknown and like myself and Nao have in common - we share the ability to take inspiration and fully realise it without being afraid of its consequences; all too often I've seen comments from devs about how complex things are (and I've made them with respect to some things people want to do) and not wanting to get involved.

There was a discussion for example about changing the permissions in SMF for 2.1 to go back to how 1.1 does it. Never mind why the changes in 2.0 were done, they're not relevant, they're just 'broken'. They've actively discussed making 2.1's permissions the same as 1.1's, though I doubt that's the final course they'll take. They're not interested in sitting down and polishing every aspect of it till it shines, merely until it's good enough. (I find it hilarious that at least one of the devs refuses to use 2.0 on his own sites because of permissions)

They do an awful lot of talking and not a lot of actual *doing* from what I've seen, maybe because they're afraid of the consequences. Well, Nao and I are officially those consequences, and whatever happens this year, as 2.0 staggers to a final release and then we march on doing what we do, we can safely let you be the judge of whether we did right to go our own way, but it's safe to say, from where we stand, we think we did the right thing.

Well... I'm planning on migrating my WP blog to the SMF fork when it's ready since there is blogging support in there... and I've been using dumps of my WP blog as test data ;)

Oh, I'm not arguing that it's pretty poor, but at least it does make a reasonable attempt at being version independent.

As for other things, WP is pretty poor generally, I have no idea why it's so popular.

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 15 March 2011 2h59 »
No, the Judean Peoples' Front! :P

Also reminds me of my friend's latest FB status:
There's nothing grammatically incorrect about the sentence 'The committee sprang into action.'  It's just not plausible. ;)

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 14 March 2011 22h32 »
From what I hear even now it's not all that great, even with all the restructuring and changes.

And yes, programming by committee is like anything by committee: you just go round and round and round.

Aeva Media / Re: [Announcement] Fork you, SMF!
« on: 12 March 2011 18h40 »
Until there is a total and complete rewrite from scratch, it's considered a derivative work, and until such time as it is sufficiently different that it isn't a derivative work, we have to play by their rules. It sucks, but there you go.

I should point out that we spent some time discussing this with the team, and we cannot make it publicly accessible, except as a mod package, prior to the licence change otherwise we can be hit with a cease and desist. Whether a US C&D letter would be valid for one developer in the UK and one in France is debatable, though I'd rather not take the chance.

We originally set out to be a friendly fork, which is where my account being on again came from, and why I've contributed some things to them, though not nearly all the things I could.

But ultimately, yes, we're not prepared to make it more public until such times as the licence situation is resolved.

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